It was not a straight path for me to what I am doing today. My whole life has been about trying out different ideas and figuring out if it works or not. Now I can share that with others too. My degree in systems engineering trained me to start with the problem to solve, not the solution, and looking at it from a holistic point of view. During my studies I worked at out family business and I grew up with the idea of joining that. However, by the time I joined the financial crisis had hit our business and we sold the company. For a bit I pursued a legal career (as I saw that was useful when selling a company) but that was not for me. ING, a bank and financial institution, recruited me because I am different from what they are used to. I am not a typical banker with my background (and still am not ;)). I started in banking but soon found out that in traditional banking roles I could not try out new things as often as I wanted. That’s when I helped set up an innovation lab and now am helping others to make the changes they want to see in their work and their world.